My Life as a San Francisco Realtor: Leather Sex and the new Condo

Leather Sex and the new Condo

I read a story last week in the SF Chronicle newspaper  and I've been thinking I'd like to hear what other Realtors think.

Of course, this is San Francisco, so there are a lot of flavors of lifestyles here. As the story goes, a recently divorced man bought a 2nd floor condo (2 unit) in a great neighborhood and with a big back yard - great for his 10 year old son. Unfortunately the new buyer has allergies, so he announced to the man living in the lower unit that he intended to remove the carpet.

LeatherLater he gets an email from downstairs telling him that his neighbor is a sexual enthusiast and enjoys leather sex. Without the thick carpet and pad, he is afraid that "noise that doesn't sound as pleasurable as it is" will be heard by all, including the 10 year old.

The new owner is now upset and feels he can't move in. The writer of the article C.W. Nevius, asked the question: "Shouldn't the real estate agents have disclosed the issue?" I know what the agent in the article said, and I agree with him 100 per cent. Your thoughts??

*Image from Mr S Leathers

Original article by C. W. Nevius


John M Scott, Broker / Owner, Scott Keys Properties, Certified Distressed Property Expert (CDPE), Council of Real Estate Brokerage Managers (CRB), serving San Francisco and the surrounding San Francisco Bay Area

Comment balloon 11 commentsJohn M. Scott • May 09 2011 09:37PM


I rue the day we have to start exploring and disclosing neighbors' sexual preferences!  LOL  I think there may be certain types of carpet that are hypo-allergenic, so hopefully the buyer can get his situation resolved going that route.   Great story, though!

Posted by Susan Haughton, Susan & Mindy Team...Honesty. Integrity. Results. (Long and Foster REALTORS (703) 470-4545) over 7 years ago

I overheard the buyer asking the seller why they were selling.

Sellers response:

We got broken in to 4 times last year, my wife doesn't feel safe here anymore.

How come that question is not on the sellers property disclosure?

Posted by Scott Warga (ACSI American Construction Specialists & Investigations) over 7 years ago

I only know what I have read here about selling real estate in CA... and from what I have read, seems you have to disclose much, I am surprised that is not on the list...

OK, just kidding.

I have to say, that is over my head... or under my feet depending on if you live under or over this guy.

Sorry again...

I can't help myself and I obviously can't pull myself together enough to give you an answer....

Now when and if it is part of a disclosure, ask me again.

Posted by Andrea Swiedler, Realtor, Southern Litchfield County CT (Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices New England Properties) over 7 years ago

Susan, I'm not sure carpet would solve the problem, but I agree with you - what goes on behind closed doors is private.

Scott, Questions aren't always direct. We have a Seller Property Questionnaire here in CA that does have a question regarding 'Neighborhood" - noise, nuisance or other problems. That would certainly work.

Andrea, I don't think this issue is unique to California, or even San Francisco. But I'm glad you enjoyed the story. I did have a hard time finding a G-rated image for the subject!

Posted by John M. Scott, Broker / Owner San Francisco Bay Area (BRE # 01442690, Scott Keys Properties) over 7 years ago

While I agree that this issue is not unique to CA, or even to San Francisco specifically, it is fun to live in a town that is so diverse!

Posted by Peggy Hughes/pha logistix, inc., SF NYC LA (pha logistix inc) over 7 years ago

Unless I am missing something, how was the agent supposed to know about the guy's lifestyle.  The onus is on the seller if he heard anything, but since he had carpet he wouldn't have, right :)

Posted by Jane Peters, Connecting you to the L.A. real estate market (Home Jane Realty) over 7 years ago

Peggy, When I moved to Sf in 1987 from Chicago, it took me a while to adjust and then I saw the light. The then Examiner's (my favorite newspaper at the time) push was to claim San Francisco as the "Best Place on Earth" to live. I totally agree!

Jane, That's just what the seller's agent said. I'm still suspicious that carpet alone could have kept down the racket!

Posted by John M. Scott, Broker / Owner San Francisco Bay Area (BRE # 01442690, Scott Keys Properties) over 7 years ago

John,  Is this for real?  I say...only in SF.

Call Nancy Pelosi and let her figure out a solution.

Incidentally, my in-laws have lived in Cow Hollow for 40+ years and my son is in the Marina.




Posted by Lloyd Binen, Silicon Valley Realtor since 1976; 408-373-4411 (Certified Realty Services) over 7 years ago

Hi Lloyd. If C.W. Nevius wrote it, then it must be real. But only in SF? Nah, the other cities just don't talk about it!

Posted by John M. Scott, Broker / Owner San Francisco Bay Area (BRE # 01442690, Scott Keys Properties) over 7 years ago

John, Wow, I love San Francisco.

The short answer is no, it should not be disclosed.

Posted by Charles Edwards Bentonville, AR REALTOR, Bentonville Real Estate Agent and Broker (Coldwell Banker Harris McHaney & Faucette 479-253-3796 ) over 7 years ago

Thanks John. And I agree on both counts!

Posted by John M. Scott, Broker / Owner San Francisco Bay Area (BRE # 01442690, Scott Keys Properties) over 7 years ago